Looks like the links for Alan Wright and ACE are out of date. Does anyone have current contacts and hopefully pictures of the coaches for the gauge ! Flying Scotsman?
Looks like the links for Alan Wright and ACE are out of date. Does anyone have current contacts and hopefully pictures of the coaches for the gauge ! Flying Scotsman?
thanks
Steve
As that thread is 2008, it's not surprising the links are dead!
There is a live steam A3 "Flying Scotsman" in development for Accucraft UK: http://www.accucraft.uk.com/. They previously sold electric versions.
An A4 in live steam has just been produced by both Accucraft and WuHu/Bowande. The A1 "Tornado" is also in development by Accucraft and should be shipping this year.
I noticed that also Steve. One has to jump on stuff when they can, since they may only be available for a few years. Phil's Narrow Gauge is the latest, he's winding down. Who knows how long some others will be around, like Ozark Miniatures/etc....
Pete,
You should point out that IF the Flying Scotsman is in LNER livery, then it should be pulling either Gresley Teak coaches, or British Pullman cars.
Your suggestions are fine for a BR livery loco.
All the best,
David Leech, Delta, Canada
p.s. D@#* rivet counters!!!
David,
I thought the question was "where do I get some coaches" ? Is there currently a supplier of either Gresley teak or British Pullman coaches ?
(P.S. I'm a life member of NYMR and I see lots of photos of Apple Green locos pulling teak coaches. Sigh.)
Did my eyes deceive me, or was that a GWR autocoach on the end of that train? I was not aware that any of those had been manufactured in large scale. I would have thought it would at least have been mentioned in the BRMNA Journal, even though most of the membership models in O, OO, or N.
David yes it is. That is my A4 and 9 of my coaches. the Autotrain car is from Tower and belongs to a friend of mine. He has the proper loco section also. Also, Bavid L, I will be pulling my Mk1's with a Flying Scot in LNER if/when I get it until my lazy self finishes my teaks.
Does anyone know of a comparison on the MK1 coaches from Finescale Brass, Accucraft and Tower Models. It appears that the Tower models are etched brass vs plastic for the others (clearly a large difference in price). Wondering how the finish compares on each as I am less concerned about the plastic vs brass.
I'm not familiar with the FS.
I did ask a few people at Diamondhead how the other two compared. (If you watch all the DH videos, you'll see at least one 4-coach BR Mk1 maroon set running behind an A4.)
The Accucraft coaches are indeed plastic with metal trucks, etc., and look very good for the price ($300. I have a set or 4 for sale if you want maroon.)
WuHu/Bowande were supposed to bring a coach, but Bob Clark informed me there had been a glitch and it hadn't turned up. Other participants told me the WuHu ex-Tower coaches (brass, as you suggest, though I don't know if they are etched or punched/machined,) are nicer. And so they should be for twice the price. Stan confirmed they look good together. Good photos on their website: http://www.bowandeusa.com/?fproduct/l2/i64
There's a discussion going on about 'matte' finish on the new Accucraft coaches, which would also apply to the BR Mk1s. Maybe they should be glossed ?
I was going add a couple of WuHu/Bowande coaches to my 4 Accucraft coaches - the RMB (diner) and FK (First Corridor) would feed the patrons and give the toffs somewhere to sit. But plans change. . .
Pete - What are you asking for your set of 4 Maroon MK1's. Also what running numbers are they - looking for E series for LNER.
Do you have any pictures of the Accucraft ones alongside the Wuhu/Bowande ones (or know someone who might have a photo) as I am considering buying the restaurant and first cars from them and want to get some idea of how they might look together.
My Mk1s are sold. They were Mxxx numbers.
There is confusion about the set car numbers too. Trevor at G1 Model Co knows which is which. I think they ordered a 4-cat SK set with 2 colors, as most people wanted an extra 2.
I haven't seen a photo of the Bowande coaches and the Accucraft in the same train. I'm told they are compatible.
I'm afraid you get what you pay for. There has been demand for less-expensive coaches since the many mainline express locomotives were/are offered in the market. At $250, you don't make money if you have to hand-examine and fix every coach?
It used to be that you could get good hand-built models of coaches for $500-$2000 each - check out the Fulgurex thread that's been running for a couple of years.
Accucraft now make US-style coaches - down to a price like the BR Mk1s. I have no personal experience, but i did recently buy a rake of USA Trains extruded aluminum coaches, much like the Accucraft but the wrong scale. They are very nice models, but axlebox retainers fell off straight out of the box.
Pete, what is the point in making your coaches with opening doors and raising your costs when the basic quality of the model is lacking. If you need more profit to make sure you can afford to get the quality right then why not concentrate on a sound basic design ?. The doors on the Bowande MK1's are a total waste of time, money and effort as they appear to be able to open whenever they feel like it. I'm sure another runner would not like to have his loco struck by one of your open doors at speed.
As for the Tower models, surely you can not condone poor soldering of the units however much they cost. This is a basic construction technique and as such should be done properly to assure nothing will fall off. A dry soldered joint is not that hard to spot.
If it takes so much more in costs to assure quality control in China then perhaps as with some other marques of models manufacture should be moved back to the UK or Europe.
I have to agree that seems like a silly enhancement that will cause more trouble than it is worth. I have never seen the Tower Models coaches so I can't comment on them, but in any case they are now gone out of business.
I have heard comments from the importers that it is sometimes difficult to communicate with the factory in China, and they don't always do what you ask! Local manufacturing can provide improved control of the final product.
I have just had five coaches from Tower Model's and they are still advertising here in the UK. These are the ones I am seeing the faults on.
I am still evaluating the Bowande models and may send a list of "faults" to Kingscale. I had hoped to run at least some of them last Saturday but finding an axle box in the packaging I decided not to risk it. I did not want what might have been a serious problem when running especially when running with some one else.
DougieL
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