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Old 05-13-2020, 09:43 PM   #1 (permalink)
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So I was watching some videos but a couple turned out to be what appeared to be G size live steam locomotives. One said Regner Harz. So I am guessing Regner made these at one time.


They look pretty interesting but guess long out of production.
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Old 05-14-2020, 03:07 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Lorna, there has never been a commercially available HSB 2-10-2. Regner made Saxonian VIIK kit in live steam (in 1:22.5). The model was a total failure, it would not move itself. Some people successfully redesigned it. Best wishes from Indoors, Zubi
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PS Lorna, I remembered that Hermann also makes VIIK in 1:22.5 I have no experience with these models other than I know I would want one with copper boiler instead of brass: https://www.echtdampfwelt.de/exclusi...-991773-3.html Other than that, there is still potential for a live steam HSB 2-10-2, although probably not in the current economic climate... Kiss was going to release an electric version, but they filed for bankruptcy protection so who knows what will happen, Zubi
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I thought LGB/ASTER had made the HSB 2-10-2 (but electric, not live steam)?
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Fred, yes, they did, it is a magnificent model, although there were a few design and quality issues. There is 900 of them so I was a bit surprised when Kiss announced their release, including the very same prototype as LGB/Aster. But recent Kiss models were really excellent and true to scale so there was apparently a sufficient market for some more electric HSB 2-10-2. Not sure that this is still the case. Live steam Harz 2-10-2 would certainly be welcome at some point in the future, although with so many electric versions around, just a handful of live-steam enthusiasts would buy it. It would be more of a statement than a commercial move for the maker. There is no 'greater' German narrow gauge prototype, just as is the case with the Uintah Mallet for the US narrow gauge market. They are symbols - such as in standard gauge the German 45 class is in Germany, or the Big Boy in the US. Dreaming Indoors, Zubi
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Hello Zubi,
The real HSB 2-10-2 is magnificent. I have been a couple of times to the Harz and made some videos.
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Lorna, there has never been a commercially available HSB 2-10-2.

Regner made the 99222 in live steam.


Prototype still in operation today at the HSB as Road 997222


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Old 05-14-2020, 09:37 AM   #8 (permalink)
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REGNER did build the 99222 (Harz 2-10-2T) more than six years ago. I imported four into the U.S. I now wish I had not sold the kit I purchased for myself.

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And here is the Regner in person:




(Reppingen is another small german supplier. I've bought parts from them.)
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Ah so it was kit. I found a couple more videos and a bit more information.


Appears that they had RC or RC available. All the videos show them being RC run. One the fireman side of the locomotive what I mistook for an airpump or maybe on the prototype it is, was actually a RC valve controlled water pump to pump water from the side tank into the boiler.



They appear to be very sophisticated live steam models.



Too bad Regner quit making them.
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