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Old 08-09-2020, 12:42 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Two scales and prototypes for one layout

It's been a little quiet on the live steam front here so I thought I would share what I do on my layout.

As I run live steam in two different scales (1:32 and 1:20) and have two favourite railways so I just put out different buildings, water towers etc to suit what I am running to change the "look" of the layout.

I run D&RGW in 1/20 scale and also I love to run my French 1/32 scale all live steam so here are some images of the same area in the two different versions. That way I sort of get two layouts and much more pleasure depending on what railway and scale I am running

Does anybody else do this ??? I'd love to see some pictures.
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Old 08-09-2020, 01:37 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I don't because I can't. I live in a unit so no room for a layout.

But, I would if I could.
Bravo Russell.
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Hi Tony, thanks for the compliment and you would be getting a fair bit of rain up your way recently?
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Hi Russel.
It's amazing how the look of your railway is completely changed with the buildings and other details. Well done.
I only run 1/32, but I am trying to run either Canadian OR British.
I have finally built my Canadian Pacific station, and will now begin a suitable British style station.
Then I will try and organise my steamups so that they will be either North American OR British (and probably some European) events.
Having said that, visitors will of course be allowed to run whatever they bring, even if it is incorrect for that event, but I think that it would be nice to have everything running look correct for whichever steamup it is.
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That's a true metamorphisis! And sort of almost "two for the price of one". Great idea!

I have been playing with the idea - that I have a feeling I've stolen - to make a layout around the concept of a "museum railway" in 1:32. That way, I would be very free to mix eras of cars, clothing styles of people - and of course an eclectic mix of locomotives and rolling stock.

Like my first HO-layout, where a Santa Fe F-7 ran beside German, Dutch and Swedish locomotives. Anything I could lay my hands on. Very charming in hindsight.

Very much like some days at the Swedish State Railwaymuseum, where if you are lucky, you can encounter a visiting electric Swiss Crocodile beside Swedish steam-, electric- and diesel engines. And rolling stock spanning 150 years!

And in a corner, Stockholm Livesteamers runs a portable layout. (I have seen pictures of a German 1:32 layout, where a "Z" scale track and locomotive modelled a ride-on garden layout! "Meta modelrailroading" :-D )
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David, I have seen images of your Canadian Pacific station , what a great job you have done there, and doing a generic British station to alternate with would be a great idea on your layout.

I have tried to avoid doing "a village scene" and only place things directly related to the railway and near the track only, such as the obvious station building and goods shed but also water towers, signal boxes and signals. ( My next projects). If I do too much in the way of buildings etc in scenery I get locked into a prototype and lets face it on raised garden railways we don't have much room anyway a so a station building and a few small trackside items is all you need to change to get the right scale and atmosphere.

The engine shed ( see images) I have is suitable for most railway prototypes and scales so that's permanently out. It's made from old Pola models that have been combined, repainted, a new roof and raised a little in height to accommodate two different scales and looks convincing for any railway.

Pauli the idea of a modern " preserved railway and musuem" is interesting and would enable you to run various prototypes of different types and if you have couple of favourite "themes" you could do two stations and some lineside items to give the feel of the railway you are running at the time still keeping the idea of a museum railway but the "two for one".
Glad you all like the idea and it's not new I pinched it from a magazine 40 years ago done on someones HO layout.
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Very nice. Only 1:20.3 for me.
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Old 08-10-2020, 07:29 AM   #8 (permalink)
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I run both scales on my layout but I don't have any buildings or even ballast on it.

You have a lovely looking layout, it looks fantastic

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I have a mix of 1:32 and 1:20.3 locomotives and rolling stock, and when I host steamups there's 7/8" scale, 1:22.5, 19mm, and 10mm scales all in the mix, so I have deliberately avoided scale-specific structures on my layout. It's a pretty small layout so space is somewhat limited too. The track is AMS with 1:20.3 narrow gauge style ties, but that's mainly because I got a really good deal on some used track There are only two structures on the layout currently: an Eagle Wings drawbridge that provides access to the middle of the mainline loop (for people and the lawnmower), and a Piko water tank that's probably 1:24-ish scale but makes a reasonable stand-in for a small 1:20.3 tank or a large 1:32 tank (basically a freebie left over from a large lot of stuff that I bought on Ebay and sold off to fund some of my early live steam activities). I do have a small collection of 1:32 steam-era (1920s-1950s) vehicles and one 1:20 scale 1920s truck that I can bring out to pose with the trains, but mostly it's just the trains.
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This may sound appaling. But I think it all boils down to the track gauge. We run 45 track gauge. Anything that runs on the track, is after all, more than welcome!

So I think the important thing, is allowing enough "loading gauge". I run 1:32, but I find my fellow large scale friends 1:13 very charming. I love the usually battered, rusty and grim, makeshift wagons and engines they model. It's very different from my standard gauge 1:32 era 1900-1925 German prototype stuff.

It sounds revolting, but running on other track than my own, is usually narrow gauge style LGB track - and I'm not that unhappy about it! It's strange, but I forget about the silly grose track, when running. :-D

So just keep loading gauge VERY generous on your layout! So you can enjoy any flavor of 45mm gauge visitors!
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