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Old 08-31-2020, 11:35 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Finally think about lettering my 2 geared locos (Accucraft 3 cyl Shay and Climax) for the Pagosa Lumber Company. The PLC was a real logging railroad that connected to the D&RGW at Dulce. It had a Shay (ex-Argentine Central #4) and, in one reference, there’s a passing mention of a Climax (likely from Halleck & Howard Lumber Company). My Shay is lettered for Mich-Cal Lumber Co with a cast number plate (#5). The Climax is unlettered. While the Shay for PLC should be #4, I may go with the route of least-resistance and keep it as #5 because of the number plate. However, the Climax just had a blank plate. I figured that no form of decal or transfer would likely stand up to the heat so…I remembered some small brass numbers I’d seen designed for 1:12 doll house numbers. Ordered same hoping they’d fit the plate. Well, they did. Attached photo shows #7 attached to the Climax number plate with JB Weld. I then sanded the plate to reduce the shiny plating on the number and also to reveal the brass rim. Actually looks better in person than the photo due to lighting.

Number plate for Climax #7.JPG
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Looks great!

Trackside Details also sells a number plate and a kit of numbers in brass. I silver-soldered mine as it is directly in front of the smokebox heat.
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Looks great!

Trackside Details also sells a number plate and a kit of numbers in brass. I silver-soldered mine as it is directly in front of the smokebox heat.
Too small for 20.3 and I'm not sure about availability. Many/most are builder's number plates and, not surprisingly, not Climax. Also let me use the existing threaded mount.
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I can tell you from experience that JB weld will not stand up to the smokebox door heat on a gas fired model for very long unless you insulate the backside of the door with some ceramic insulation material. Looks great otherwise. Check out Trackside Details, they have some cast brass number plates that might be better suited to the high heat on a live steamers smoke box door. Mike the Aspie
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I can tell you from experience that JB weld will not stand up to the smokebox door heat on a gas fired model for very long unless you insulate the backside of the door with some ceramic insulation material. Looks great otherwise. Check out Trackside Details, they have some cast brass number plates that might be better suited to the high heat on a live steamers smoke box door. Mike the Aspie
Again, the current listing for Trackside doesn't have any simple number plates. Only blanks and Baldwin.

Backside of smokebox is insulated, but I'll add more.
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Too small for 20.3 and I'm not sure about availability.
I wasn't suggesting your solution was anything but perfect.
Just added the TD note for those who don't have an existing number plate on the smokebox!

Availability is fine. David at Valley Brass responds to emails and ships promptly, in my experience.
TD-19 is 13.13 mm diameter which is about 1/2 an inch.
TD-71to73 have the Baldwin name around the outside, and are 15mm.
TD-139 & 140 are also plain and larger. The largest is 18.75mm, or about 3/4".
TD-198 is the raised brass numbers, 5mm tall.
I used them on a loco a few years ago.
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I wasn't suggesting your solution was anything but perfect.
Just added the TD note for those who don't have an existing number plate on the smokebox!

Availability is fine. David at Valley Brass responds to emails and ships promptly, in my experience.
TD-19 is 13.13 mm diameter which is about 1/2 an inch.
TD-71to73 have the Baldwin name around the outside, and are 15mm.
TD-139 & 140 are also plain and larger. The largest is 18.75mm, or about 3/4".
TD-198 is the raised brass numbers, 5mm tall.
I used them on a loco a few years ago.
but none an improvement over the stock blank plate and/or not suitable because not a Baldwin loco.
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