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Old 03-04-2009, 10:37 PM   #11 (permalink)
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That is a heck of a deal to get an MTH BB for $500. I'd jump on that. And if you don't want it just you let me know.

I agree with what's been said. I don't generally run 1:29 cars with my 1:32 stuff either because of the size difference. I did go with Bachmann coal hoppers because their physical dimensions fit both 1:29 and 1:32. I do run Aristocraft Heavyweight passenger cars behind my 1:32 Challenger but it has been said those cars are probably smaller than 1:29 in scale.

1:29 just has wow factor that's hard to top. I'm like Pete, I never get tired of looking at my USA BB, it such an incredible piece. I'm also like Chuck, I enjoy running my MTH BBs because they are easier to handle and am less scared of damaging them. Another thing going for my MTH versions is the sound... I almost prefer them for that reason alone.

Either way I still enjoy both.


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Old 03-05-2009, 02:25 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Raymond - Do you know if anyone has ever attempted a DCS retrofit to the USA Big Boy? It would seem like the best of all possible worlds!
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Hey Jon,

Not that I'm aware of but that doesn't mean someone hasn't done it yet. Chuck and I have talked about it and I think he probably isn't too far from doing his. Since mine is basically a display piece I haven't had a lot of motivation to convert mine up to this point. At some point though I figure I will go ahead and do it as I'll be more likely to run it when I do. If I can't run an engine under digital control it just stays on the shelf.

I did have someone contact me asking how much I would charge to convert one but I declined because of the risks of damage in shipping the engine.

I agree with you though, would be the best of both worlds!


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I'm pretty sure you can't go wrong either way Doug, USA Trains and MTH both make great products. It comes down to what you can afford. I am going to be working on my MTH stock soon, probably starting with Triplex.

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Will - It also comes down to how large your curves are! I live about 20 minutes from Charles Ro, and having seen the Big Boy numerous times, I really think it's appropriate for only the largest layouts. The MTH Big Boy, on the other hand, is a pretty flexible beast and can run practically anywhere - an additional benefit is that you won't require back surgery after placing it on the tracks! Raymond - I would think that you'd have at least SOME interest in getting your big boy on the rails again under DCS, but with all the work you do for others, I can imagine you don't have much free time.
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Old 03-07-2009, 10:23 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Hi guys! I know I'm a narrow gauge fan but these Big Boys are indeed fascinating! In the comparisons I note that certain details are interpreted slightly differently depending upon which manufacturer you are looking at. One small detail that I'm not seeing but which was on the prototype:



If you will note the chain powerd drive that attaches to the reversing linkage just to the right of my son, Eric's head. Now, I know that certain details can be omitted but certaintly something this obvious shouldn't have been? It doesn't have to be a working powered linkage but it ought to at least be there!
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Hey Steve,

Great photo. They are just amazing engines.

That chain drive you see was a different method for triggering the mechanical lubricator (if I remember correctly) and was only added at a later point, not on delivery which is what the USA BB is modeled after.


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Ah....thanks for the clarification.
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Any time I see ,,VS. The USAT BB is like comparing a Monster truck with a four wheel drive pickup (mth). mth may have AC and leather seats but....
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Posted By NTCGRR on 04/11/2009 8:01 PM
Any time I see ,,VS. The USAT BB is like comparing a Monster truck with a four wheel drive pickup (mth). mth may have AC and leather seats but....





Marty, just because its big.... it is not necessarily effective.

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