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tacfoley 01-25-2008 06:00 AM

David Leech - how I build coaches
Mornin' all - there is a really excellent article in the latest issue [#216] of the G1MRA Newsletter by famed model-maker David leech on how he build his excellent passenger coaches - fully illustrated and with full explanatory notes on his construction methods.

Although David has 'hung up' his tools, he continues to fulfil his back-orders until all his commitments are satisfied, but his methodology is not un-typical of the present-day small-batch maker, and is deserving of attention by anybody thinking about building their onw rolling stock of this type.
If anyone who is interested cares to contact me I'll┬* send them a set of photo-copies.


tacfoley 01-25-2008 09:19 AM

RE: Daid Leech - how I build coaches
Dear All - for those of you who have contacted me so far, please read the last line of my post - at 13.9Mb this file it too big to send on my aol.┬*┬*

You'll have to trust me to mail it to you, that's why I wrote photo-copies.


SteveC 01-26-2008 03:01 AM

RE: Daid Leech - how I build coaches

Have you considered using your MLS 1st Class web space as a distribution point for those individuals that are interested. That's what I did with the resulting 25MB PDF file when I consolidated all of Richard Smith's posts on the Port Orford Coast RR.

tacfoley 01-26-2008 06:07 AM

RE: Daid Leech - how I build coaches
Dear Mr Steve C Moderator - that would indeed be a very useful way of passing on information, however, there are a┬*number of problems there -┬*

1.┬* By making this┬*public I would be in deep dwang with the G1MRA, who are the copyright holders of this document - a couple af buckshee copies to the odd pals is one thing, but spreading it on the internet is a definite no-no here in yUK.

2.┬* AOL here in yUK prohibits me from posting files larger than 2Mb for reasons I cannot fathom.

Sorry about that - it seems that most of the benefits of 1st Class membership is wasted on me, but there ya go.....[img]/DesktopModules/NTForums/themes/mls/emoticons/sad.gif[/img]



SteveC 01-26-2008 01:30 PM

RE: Daid Leech - how I build coaches
Mr. Foley

You are quite correct in your answer that it would not only be┬*wrong but also most probably be an infringement on their copyright, at the same time it reflects most favorably┬*on your integrity for bringing my short sightedness to my attention, I was only thinking of how to solve one part of the problem.

Thank You
Most respectfully
Steve Conkle

Dave F 01-26-2008 01:55 PM

RE: Daid Leech - how I build coaches
This side of the pond, even sending photocopies is a copyright infringement... Though seldom prosecuted..

Hagen 01-29-2008 03:09 AM

RE: David Leech - how I build coaches
If the G1MRA would have been a bit more "modern" in their payment options, I would have been a member and I would most certainly have ordered that issue.
They should really talk to Mr. Gorton about getting their publication on the internet alongside his, would be an extra income for them I am sure (then again, judging from the models of the members extra income may not be needed [;)])

abby 01-29-2008 10:17 AM

RE: David Leech - how I build coaches
You could use skype or instant messenger to transfer the files.

Dr Rivet 01-29-2008 06:34 PM

RE: David Leech - how I build coaches
For Hagen

I guess having a society of less than 2000 people worldwide justifies the expense of credit card processing, internet online membership paying etc. Apparently in the UK there are all kinds of rules about how funds are handled and the privacy of personal information that don't apply [certainly in the USA] in other countries. This makes it very difficult for them to use any "automated" method for dues payment by other than "standing bank draft", a process between you [as a member] and your bank. G1MRA doesn't get involved in the process except to be notified that the money in their account came from your account.

The same issue arrose with the HMRS [Historical Model Railwaty Association]. I can mail a form with CC information with an original signature, but using an automated renewal process doesn't work very well.

As to online content, there is a Yahoo group with lots of stuff available once you become a member of G1MRA. I for one appreciate that it is NOT all online, given the attirude of many people that if it is online it should be available for FREE redisitribution; forget about intellectual property rights. IF it was available for free you probably would NEVER consider becoming a member, there would be NO percieved benefit.

For Abby

It doesn't matter about the bandwidth, it is still theft of copyrighted material. It is NO different than stealing a copy of the magazine [excuse me; obtaining the intellectual property without due compensation to the original author or copyright holder].

I think any one openly advocating on this site, illegal distribution of copyrighted material whether by electronic or other means, should be banned from this web site. It is a criminal offense, like it or not. And it hardly qualifies as an act of "civil disobediance".

I am truly sorry Tac ever started this thread, other than identifying the original published source of David's article.


tacfoley 02-07-2008 03:33 AM

RE: David Leech - how I build coaches
Dear Dr Rivet -┬*

1.┬* According to the G1MRA - ignoring those who may have joined up this New Year - there are around 2500 paid-up┬*members.┬*┬*

2.┬*┬*Only four┬*friends have taken me up on my offer , as was expected, thus sharing in my criminal activities.┬* However, you may sleep┬*easy on my behalf,┬*Sir, as any feelings of guilt on my part┬*are way down my present list of priorities. [img]/DesktopModules/NTForums/themes/mls/emoticons/whistling.gif[/img]

3.┬* Please┬*feel free to┬*[try and] get me banned from this site┬*and blacklisted within the world of the G1MRA.┬*┬*I'd hate to think that this takes you away from playing trains, so.....┬*

4.┬*┬*To assist you in your efforts - I'm sure you know Mr Pulley's address, and also that of the G1MRA, but my local police force might present some difficulty, so here it is in full -
For the attention of Ms Julie Spence -┬*

The Chief Constable
Cambridgeshire Constabulary Headquarters
Hinchingbrooke Park
PE29 6NP


Luckily they have a 24-hour reporting helpline, too, so the time difference won't matter.┬* Five hours isn't it?

5.┬* In a spirit of co-operation, which might serve to help me if and when the case comes to court,┬*and to save you using your undoubtedly valuable time researching further ways and means of implementing the ban you seek,┬*have you considered publicising the campaign by using T-shirts?┬* If not, you really ARE missing out on this popular and fun way of bringing the attention of almost everybody to your cause.┬* so please┬*have a look at┬*Berda, one of the┬*leading T-shirt printers in the US.┬* They have an excellent range of products,┬*including pens and fun hats, too, and prices for having your message printed on their high-quality product are very reasonable - see┬* :)┬* The use of only six letters - ┬*'BAN TAC' - is both succinct and┬*thrifty, although some might think that the T-shirt┬*advertises a┬*Vietnamese┬*restaurant or vacation locale, rather than a demand to remove somebody from a website.┬* It's a pity that DH is behind us, as a great publicity opportunity would have presented itself there.┬*

6.┬* And lastly, if┬*you and just about anybody else has never made a photo-copy of an article in a magazine for a friend, or two, or even four,┬*I will eat the keyboard in front of me with the sauce of your choice.

Your┬*regret on my behalf┬*is┬*duly noted.┬*┬*

Have a nice day, Dr Rivet. :D


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