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Old 07-26-2008, 07:55 PM   #1 (permalink)
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OK first off please excuse the blasphame, [img]/DesktopModules/NTForums/themes/mls/emoticons/laugh.gif[/img] , and hello this is my first post here but hopefully not my last.

But truth be told I am not a gardener and dont really have any desire to become one. I am really only interested in running an outdoor railroad with my G scale loco's.

I am curious if I am alone in this or if there are others that feel the same way as I do and have built there outdoor railroads gardenless. If so how did you go about it?, any tips would be helpfull.

I am planing to build a 16'x65' raised area off of my deck in which to construct the railroad. It's not large by most standards but its where I am going to start.

I would also like some info where I can find some track plans/layouts that will help me decide on a layout for my railroad. I would like to be able to see what the layout look like before I start laying track.

Thanks in advance, Ron

(just a note I posted this on a couple of different forums so I could get wide range of opinions)
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Old 07-26-2008, 08:39 PM   #2 (permalink)
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GASP! Horrors!

Err ah... well... if you read around on this forum you will not a bazillion photos of various "Garden Railroads" that seem to be totally devoid of "Garden". Even those that are not elevated sometimes are just barren ground and rocks with artificial botanical decoration.

Personally, with my horticultural expertise, wherein I am eminently qualified to tell the difference between a weed and a brick, I have opted for an elevated railroad in my backyard and totally ignore those that ask what I have done with the "garden" aspect of it.

Build your "Railroad" and enjoy it. :-)
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Old 07-26-2008, 08:45 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Ron,

Welcome to MLS. There is a great bunch of people here with a wide range of interests. I find that the folks here are SOO much more tollerant of differing opinions and tastes than anyother site I've come across in Model Railroading. There are gardeners, rivet counters, whimsical fans, live steamers--all living in harmony. I mysefl am sort of in your boat--a model railroader that choses to run outside: 1 because I like the fresh air and 2 the size of the trains is addictive--I like my trains with some heft.

That said, what you propose is not all that unusual. Here is a link to a thread on my layout I am building, and other than the fact that it is in the dirt--it is a model railroad outside, and I might plant a few live plants if I have room (at this rate doubtfull).

http://www.mylargescale.com/Communit...c/Default.aspx

Sorry still don't know how to make links active--just cut and paste into your browser.

The man's work you really need to see is Richard Smith. Do a search for his Port Oregon Coast railroad--there is even a PDF file put together with its construction. It is raised on pressure treated benchwork and I think it MAY have a few live plants, but Richard himself admits to being like you and me--not a gardener. Sorry Richard if I got that wrong, but I recall seeing such a comment in one of your posts--it made me feel at home. If it is green I can kill it. Not sure how my grass stays green in the yard--but then again St Augustine grass is really a weed--I believe you folks up north call it crab grass. I call it easy to care for!

Good luck with your plans, I can't wait to see what you come up with.

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Old 07-26-2008, 09:09 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Just a little clarification, I'm not going to build a deck extension.
It will be on the ground
I plan on using a double layer of 6x6x16's pressure treated wood, to make a 16x65 foot area, I'll use clean fill to bring up the grade to about 9", from there I will have to figure out where to go as far as roadbed ect., I am thinking about putting in a pond or 2 to run over and maybe a mountain to drive though.

I plan on using aristo craft stainless steel track with 12.5 foot curve radius, and some form of DCC for track control.

I am looking for peoples experiance and some pointers on what they did.
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Old 07-26-2008, 09:17 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Ron,

Here is the link to Richard's work, be warned it is a LARGE PDF, but worth the wait.

http://1stclass.mylargescale.com/ste...R/POC_Main.pdf

And since someone 'esplained' to me how to post links, here is my thread--sounds like what you are doing, only on a smaller scale:

http://www.mylargescale.com/Community/Forums/tabid/56/forumid/9/postid/37582/view/topic/Default.aspx

Hope it helps.

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Wow what i wouldnt give for free time like that, [img]/DesktopModules/NTForums/themes/mls/emoticons/laugh.gif[/img][img]/DesktopModules/NTForums/themes/mls/emoticons/laugh.gif[/img][img]/DesktopModules/NTForums/themes/mls/emoticons/laugh.gif[/img]

But some very nice idea's thanks Mat.

Does anyone know of a good website that has a large selection of track plans?
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That's the beauty of large scale! You can pretty much make up any track plan you want! Seriously though, because there are different manufacturers of sectional track ( and some measure in metric while some measure imperial) it is difficult to point you to one source for track layouts. I would recommend doing your research here on MLS and by talking to and experiencing the layouts of others. The archives are literally filled with questions that have been asked and answered by people like you! I would also recommend Garden Railways as it is a bi-monthly magazine that has a plethora of information. A number of GR's contributors are regulars here on MLS!
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Old 07-27-2008, 06:15 AM   #8 (permalink)
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I'm not looking for exact piece by piece track plans, just some place were I can look at different track layouts so I can get some ideas, they dont even ahve to be G scale for that matter.
And omg are there any video's of Richards POC rail road?
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Lots of people have done similar things. One of the most fabulous is in Alaska.

See http://www.mylargescale.com/Communit...c/Default.aspx
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Hmmmmm.... Do I detect a little double speak?
Bodsrailroad - I am thinking about putting in a pond or 2 to run over and maybe a mountain to drive though.
Would that be a water garden and rock garden?
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