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Old 01-06-2009, 06:49 PM  
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Hi,

Another newbie question on my part...but at least this is the right place for them.

I am just wondering about the quality of HLW and experiences with them. They are made in the US from what I can gather but seem to be priced less than Aristo-Craft and USA Trains which are made in China. So is the quality worse or better? Why is there a price difference? Why aren't they making Diesels and more products!?


I can't find much on these guys.

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Old 01-06-2009, 06:53 PM  
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Of course my next search and I find this: http://www.mylargescale.com/Communit...ault.aspx#9083

In any event, I'm curious about whether or not they will come up with any diesels. Any ideas?
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Old 01-06-2009, 07:09 PM  
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Good quality running stuff but most is non-prototype, roughly 1:24 scale and a bit toy like. Most is made from old Kalamazoo molds and a some old Delton passenger car olds. All the steamers are from the same parts. They do have a bit of a niche in the trolley and electric market and their mini line is fun for bashing. Their motor blocks are known to be durable.
I just got a pair of Birneys that will be detailed soon -



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Old 01-06-2009, 08:07 PM  
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Details can always be added by the purchaser. When it comes to sheer guts and pulling power,
Hartland units are hard to beat. I set a Bachmann Heisler for the NMRA polarity (opposite the large
scale norm) to see how well it would fare against the smaller Hartland Big John. Big John dragged the
Bachmann Heisler backwards as it struggled to go forwards.

No diesels available from Hartland. The closest to a diesel is the Mack "gasoline mechanical"
(well, it's really a sparkie like all their other power units). The Mack prototypes had a 4 cylinder
Mack gasoline engine under each hood. Depending on how many cars needed to be moved, the
engineer cranked one engine or both engines.

So far my Hartland motive power includes: Big John (loosely based on the Dunkirk geared steamer), the
4-4-0, the Mack switcher, the Birney trolley, the interurban combine, and the steeple cab electric (another
adaptation of the Mack switcher chassis and cab).

All these units run and pull well, without my having to fuss much with them. For me, that is the real beauty
in a piece of motive power.

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At the Chicago Botanic a mac switcher took the place of the *&# cog engines that wore out on the cog railway.

The old heartland trolly continues to outlive the 2 A*# trollies that wore out.

They just don't stop working.
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The quality is excellent. They just keep going and going and going and going. I run 10 or more of their power trucks in their locomotives and ones that I've bashed. As Tom posted, I've changed the other rack locomitive drive with Hartland.


They are easy to fix, parts are readily available and they are sooooooooooooo 'bashable...
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Good Stuff, used the Macks for several bashes, they just keep going and going and going so I'm a happy camper!

















Great source for making Critters...

Sometimes I think I'm their best customer...at least for Macks!!!
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Even after V Smith has had his way with them, they keep working.
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They must like it, they keep coming back for more
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HLW engines and rolling stock are vey durable. I have yet to hear anything negative about them. I currently have the Big John and Mack. I also have a few flat cars, mini series log cars and a caboose. They are very easy to kitbash. They are not as detailed as Bachmann but they are much more durable and you can easily detail them. I am a hudge fan of HLW products bth for quality and price.

Big John with HLW flats repainted.


HLW mini series log cars with LGB porter, all repainted


HLW caboose (Still have to repaint ect...)


HLW flat mini series. (Currently being made into a small tender for my porter.


HLW mini series gondala converted into a tender (Currently my snow plow)


HLW gondola (was tender)


This just give you an idea of what can be done for very little money
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