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Old 04-18-2019, 12:24 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I bought the Bachmann Connie years ago but never have run it. At the time, I didn't understand the difference and thought it was the one that they run in Durango, CO. And shortly after I bought it, they came out with the C19, which as I understand is what is run on the Durango and Silverton line. So I'm thinking about selling the Connie and buying a C19. What are the running differences and what is a used, but not used, Connie worth with all its original boxes, etc? Opinions?

As we move towards 'retiring there on our property, I know we will have lots of visitors and I'd like to show them what runs in town before most will probably do the real train.
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I bought the Bachmann Connie years ago but never have run it. At the time, I didn't understand the difference and thought it was the one that they run in Durango, CO. And shortly after I bought it, they came out with the C19, which as I understand is what is run on the Durango and Silverton line. So I'm thinking about selling the Connie and buying a C19. What are the running differences and what is a used, but not used, Connie worth with all its original boxes, etc? Opinions?

As we move towards 'retiring there on our property, I know we will have lots of visitors and I'd like to show them what runs in town before most will probably do the real train.
Mickey, one of my pals here in Florida spends his summers in Durango, so PM me if you want his email address. He owns a F scale model (1:20.3) of one of the "K" class 2-8-2s, which are the backbone of the current CO tourist railroads. I believe there is a C-19 at the CO RR Museum, and another at Knotts Berry Farm in California, but none are active in CO on the tourist RR.


I would suggest you look for a Bachmann K-27 or an Accucraft K-27/28/36/37. Here's the lists of currently active locos:

http://www.drgw.net/info/DSNGRoster
http://www.drgw.net/info/CTSRoster
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I guess I totally got it off as to what they run there. So what years did Bachmann make the K-27?
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Caveat Emptor for both recipients.
The Connie has a big inbuilt problem. Well two actually.
It is highly likely the main drive gear has cracked sitting in storage. Might be hard to fix nowadays. Usually requires either an axle shaft with the gear mounted or a new gear which has to be mounted on the original axle.
The other problem is the side frames on the tender. All four of them are mounted with screws that are too short. You need longer screws but they cannot be too long as they will foul the truck mounting bearing.
The K27 also has a few minor problems.

The gearbox has the wrong gear ratios. Something like 14:1 instead of a more suitable 28:1. The fan for the motor cooling runs backwards and sucks the smoke from the smoke unit down into the loco body instead of blowing it up the chimney.
The chuff trigger is wired backwards from the norm. It needs a transistor to invert the signal to make it usable with some sound systems..
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I guess I totally got it off as to what they run there. So what years did Bachmann make the K-27?
Now your are asking a tough question. I've no idea, but it was probably 10 years ago. They do turn up on the used market occasionally. Keep your eye on eBay and Facebook.


I believe they had one other problem not mentioned by Tony - the counter-balance weights fell off the first batches? All solvable problems!
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So my original thoughts of selling the Connie to buy a C19 is not what I'm thinking now. Watching the two in various videos vs the K27, I think I would prefer the K27. So now I will watch eBay for listings. Thanks for the input.
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When you do see one pop up on eBay they are not cheap so you know. Can reach Upwards of $1,000
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The Durango &Silverton runs K-28s, K-36s, and K-37s. I think the only operational K-27 is at the Cumbres & Toltec. They are all similar to each other to the point where a non-railfan would likely not be able to tell the difference. If your goal is to give visitors to your line the general flavor of what runs through town, you'll do well with the Bachmann K-27. If you're looking for exact, then Accucraft made models of the others. Pricey, though.

The C-19 is a great locomotive, though (arguably one the finest large scale locos made). Don't overlook it. The Durango & Silverton has the #315, which is a C-18--again, very similar to the C-19 to where the casual observer wouldn't know the differences. (It may be vacationing at the Cumbres & Toltec right now, I forget.)

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When you do see one pop up on eBay they are not cheap so you know. Can reach Upwards of $1,000
Ouch. Well maybe not.
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Kevin,


I believe there is a K-27 operational at the Huckleberry Railroad in Michigan. Near Flint for us easterners (grin). I was there for its inaugural run in conjunction with the Narrow Gauge Convention.
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