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Old 04-12-2020, 01:01 PM   #1 (permalink)
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IMO, there is nothing like LGB quality. I have starter sets from over 35 years ago that my kids are now playing with...I recently put a track up hanging a foot off the ceiling and we run the trains a lot now. However, there is the worst high pitch squeal from the car wheels that really detracts from the beauty of it all and over powers the natural sound of the wheels on the rails. Iíve tried the LGB lube pen w/oil, it helps but only last a day or two. Tried the graphite paste, doesnít seem to help. Any suggestions, please!
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Old 04-12-2020, 02:20 PM   #2 (permalink)
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on curves?
plastic or metal wheels?
radius or diameter of curves? (specify radius or diameter besides the value)
what cars are doing this?
what do the flanges on the cars making noise look like? smooth or grooved?



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It seems more on curves (1500) but does occur on strait too. 2 axel pax cars. The trucks the wheels are in don't seem to be rotating the full direction with curve and staying slightly rotate still while on straits. I don’t know exactly about the flanges. I’ve included some pics of the plastic wheels.... You suggest I try new wheels? Lube the trucks?
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A smooth sound I think
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That is quite often a problem with the 2 axle cars, the pictures show a bit of wear on the flanges and the treads are quite shiny. That first picture shows what looks like metal wheel treads, but you said plastic.
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Thank Greg,
The pix does look like a metal tread but it’s plastic. I guess I could swap out with some newer wheels and see if that helps. Is the noise from the metal axle spinning on plastic holder/bearing/truck area or is it from wheel to brass track?
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You need to first try to figure out what actually causes the sqeal, then you can fix it.
Like:
Is the squeal there with every car or just some?
Does the squeal just happen on a specific section of the layout?
If there is a squeal with a particular car, is the squeal still there when you take the car off the track and just spin the wheels
You mentioned that the trucks on the 2-axle cars don't straighten out when coming out of a curve. To fix that (which might cause a squeal) you can make a wire linkage or buy a set of linkages that connect the two trucks and get rid of that particular problem.
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Check for clearance of the dummy brake shoe when the wheel set is moved laterally side to side. If they touch, file off some of the shoe.
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You mentioned that the trucks on the 2-axle cars don't straighten out
You should be able to fix that by adding a little grease (vaseline will work) on the top and pivot of the truck wheel-frame. It may be causing the squeal.


Other than that, it is time to eliminate things one at a time. Remove one wagon at a time until the noise stops. Swap wagons around - reverse the whole train so the one at the back is now at the front. Etc.
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Don't use Vaseline it isn't plastic compatible, use one that is
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