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Old 04-18-2020, 02:22 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I am new and using a BACHMANN Heavy Hauler loco. I want to pull longer cars 12-13. The loco unit spins when starting even slow.

Can anyone recommend a loco that has all 6 wheels pulling..not just 4 used on the 4-6-0- config.
Also, need a reasonable price. The LGB Michado, etc are very high for just a moderate backyard layout
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Old 04-18-2020, 03:11 PM   #2 (permalink)
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That number of cars will make many starter locomotives spin wheels. The weight of the loco makes alot of difference. The size of curves and inclines are also very important. Level the best, curves, the bigger the better. Consider double heading?
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Old 04-18-2020, 10:28 PM   #3 (permalink)
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He forgot to mention that part of his layout is R1 curves.
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Old 04-19-2020, 02:16 AM   #4 (permalink)
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A Bachmann Big Hauler Anniversary Edition can pull a lot cars more cars than the plastic equipped standard edition can.

Here's an old video of one of my older Version 5 Anniversary Big Haulers pulling a long train:
In this video, it is hauling 2 tenders and thirteen cars of various types.
But you're definitely going to have to use larger,wider radius curves if you ever want your loco to be able to pull that many cars!
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All the Bachmann big haulers I have seen only drive the rear axle, the side rods drive the middle and front wheels. These are 'light' engines and do not pull well im my opinion. Smallest American style steam engine for pulling that I have is the LGB Forney. and runs on R1 curves (4 foot circle). However the engine that could pull stumps and is small is the USA trains docksider. Very heavy as it is all metal but requires 5 foot minimum circle.
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I bet my Classic C-16 (new drive belt) could, but I won't try it, I like realistic trains. Besides we pull a steady 2% grade up to the mountain mines. More than 4-5 cars requires a helper..
If I had to pick a loco to do that. I'd go with HLW's Big John loco.


http://www.h-l-w.com/big-john.html
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The anniversary version of the big hauler has no real differences that would make it a better puller. All the differences are really cosmetic.



These locos do not have a robust drive train or a large motor, nor do they weigh a lot.


The only real improvement that was possible was changing to a BBT drive and adding weight. Now that really made a difference. Unfortunately BBT is out of business, but for your edification:


https://elmassian.com/index.php/larg...-trains-drives


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I don't know about that, Greg. I tried the same stunt with the standard edition,plastic drive rod equipped, Big Hauler, and no go. It just sat there spinning its' wheels.
Now, Betsy(what I call the 4-6-0 in the video),will pull that many mixed cars all day long without a problem!
Stay healthy and safe !
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OK, other than you have 2 locos that run differently, please give me the details of the differences between a current production Big Hauler and and Anniversary edition.


(comparing a really old gen 1 BH to a much newer BH makes no sense)..


Please list the differences that make my statement below incorrect:

"The anniversary version of the big hauler has no real differences that would make it a better puller. All the differences are really cosmetic."

We're trying to help someone here, not confuse them.


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Sorry,Greg.

No offense, or confusion meant, but I thought that you were saying that the BHAE is not a better puller than the BHSE.

Which it most certainly is.

The big difference between the 2 is the weight,which gives the Anniversary Edition a bigger car hauling advantage over the Standard Edition.
I wonder how the newest edition that's yet to be released will test out compared to the current models?
Sorry if my last reply to you was in any way offensive or confusing!
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