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Ruger B 07-03-2020 02:42 PM

At What Point To Throw In Towel?
 
Hey folks -

I've always been infatuated with steam engines. However, I'm finding that the process of operation and adjustments to be non-rewarding.

After 2-3 weeks of fighting to get Ruby going (unsuccessful) - I had the brilliant idea to buy an unassembled Heisler (yes, I'm that dumb). Neither train runs correctly. Very deflating after all this time and nothing to show other than bookshelf candy.

The trains are fine. My thought process is the problem.

I'm total $4k into this (so far). Probably could sell everything (bundle only) for $2800 to $3K.

This post is to see if you've ever came close to 'Joe Namath-ing' your equipment 100 yds and walking away?

Also - for those considering live steam - you will need the patience of a saint...of which, I clearly lack.

Best,
Ruger

Aflyer 07-03-2020 02:56 PM

Wish I could offer some help, but the closest I could come is using an old steam iron, to get the wrinkles out of my shirt. Yes that was about 10 years ago, LOL.

Where are you located, there may be some other Live Steam guys in the area willing to take a look with you.
Aflyer

Pete Thornton 07-03-2020 04:36 PM

Quote:

After 2-3 weeks of fighting to get Ruby going (unsuccessful) - I had the brilliant idea to buy an unassembled Heisler (yes, I'm that dumb). Neither train runs correctly.
Sorry to hear of your problems. I threw in the towel on my Ruby/FWRR loco after fighting it for years - it sits on the glass cabinet as a static exhibit these days.

However, the Regner Heisler is a different beast. Mine runs beautifully without any special build problems. The only issue we found was setting the reversing valve properly. Did you use the UK-English instructions from Graham at Gardenrailways.co.uk? Or did you work with the german?

The thread on MLS has most of the queries/problems and the solutions. Your YT video shows you need to adjust the reverser as we did!
https://forums.mylargescale.com/18-l...isler-kit.html
I posted a similar thread on LSC.

Ruger B 07-07-2020 12:42 PM

Pete - I appreciated your thread on assembly. The reverser was giving me fits to no end.

When the train derailed and broke the site glass - shards and steam blowing galore - I was done. Only temporarily though.

After posting this thread, I took everything and stuffed it away for the remainder of the weekend.

I pulled it out this AM and, of course, had the rig running - forward even - within 30 minutes.

All good, looking forward to building a track now. Then building my own rolling stock as I hate plastic.

Lesson: Sometimes you just have to walk away for a while.

Make it a great day, Ruger.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete Thornton (Post 1157006)
Sorry to hear of your problems. I threw in the towel on my Ruby/FWRR loco after fighting it for years - it sits on the glass cabinet as a static exhibit these days.

However, the Regner Heisler is a different beast. Mine runs beautifully without any special build problems. The only issue we found was setting the reversing valve properly. Did you use the UK-English instructions from Graham at Gardenrailways.co.uk? Or did you work with the german?

The thread on MLS has most of the queries/problems and the solutions. Your YT video shows you need to adjust the reverser as we did!
https://forums.mylargescale.com/18-l...isler-kit.html
I posted a similar thread on LSC.


Ruger B 07-07-2020 12:44 PM

Steam is not for everyone! I'm kinda in the middle right now....but trending well...patience!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aflyer (Post 1157000)
Wish I could offer some help, but the closest I could come is using an old steam iron, to get the wrinkles out of my shirt. Yes that was about 10 years ago, LOL.

Where are you located, there may be some other Live Steam guys in the area willing to take a look with you.
Aflyer


Aflyer 07-09-2020 02:35 PM

Ruger B.
I am happy you got the loco running, must be a great feeling of accomplishment.
Good luck on the track work, I am in the middle of that task myself. I posted up a couple pictures in my thread.
George

Ruger B 07-09-2020 07:14 PM

Thanks George. And, yes, it's a good feeling. The suffering of frustration does pile up to enhance the satisfaction, once you've hit that elusive goal.

Like taking up guitar at 46 and hitting that opening riff of a Bill Squier song after hours of attempts...then...just wow...I did that? sorta thing..

But, more 'rite of passage' via track assembly mind-torment! At least the track isn't 'LIVE' LOL

I'll certainly take a gander at your efforts.. :cool:

Certainly I'll have a few videos of mine in progress...maybe soon. I want an adjustable grade - for competition hill climbing... Yeah, I know - NUTZ LOL

Ruger

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aflyer (Post 1157208)
Ruger B.
I am happy you got the loco running, must be a great feeling of accomplishment.
Good luck on the track work, I am in the middle of that task myself. I posted up a couple pictures in my thread.
George


Dwight Ennis 07-09-2020 08:52 PM

Way back when, there was a MasterClass done on the Live Steam Ruby kit. Sadly, because the main author disappeared from the face of the earth, the last chapter was never completed. Nevertheless, a lot of good info is contained in it, especially in Chapter 4 concerning assembly of the Ruby kit, and most especially, Dave Hottmanm's sub-chapter on tuning Ruby's valves...

http://www.npcrr.com/Articles/Master...C04-Chp-04.pdf

Totalwrecker 07-09-2020 09:10 PM

Thanks Dwight, my Ruby kit, has gotten in the line for bench time.

Mike Toney 07-10-2020 12:41 AM

Ruger, dont know where your at in the states, but once we get past this covid stuff and steam ups start to happen on a more regular basis, hit a few. Retiming a Ruby to run right even baffles me and I have build Aster kits and run much more complicated models. Just cant wrap my mind around how to set those valves! But we have a gentleman, Jim Sanders of Wee Bee Locomotive Works, who is a whiz a setting the valve timing on these. As you hang around other live steamers in person more, observe what they do and learn, things will become less frustrating. Pretty much all the live steamers I have met thru the years are more than happy to help solve problems with your engine. You did the right thing, walked away and did something else for a few days. Then come back to the problem engine and try again. Our local steam group will be steaming at Jim's place tomorrow thru Sunday, not many are coming which is understandable. But the local folk will be running on his portable layout. Mike


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