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Old 02-20-2020, 01:36 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I am looking at a used PH-10R setup. I noticed that this ProCab does not have an antenna but there are many photos of ProCabs, including the ones on the NCE website, which do have an antenna. I submitted the question to the NCE website but have not received a response.

Could this be an older model? Is the range better on the model with the antenna? Is the antenna removable/optional?
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Old 02-20-2020, 02:38 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Newer radio procabs have internal antennas


range is better with external antenna


external antenna made it easy to break the connector off the circuit board.


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Thank you, Sir. I don't need the range on my layout as much as I would like it more robust.
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You asked if the range was better, and I answered, but I should tell you that the range is pretty good with the internal patch antenna, just keep you hand away from the top, easy to do since you naturally hold the throttle lower down, and can easily use one hand to operate.


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Thank you. I purchased the set. My RR is not huge so I don't foresee a problem with range. I was just wondering.
Now I have to figure out which decoders to use for each engine.
My priority will be my Forney as it currently does not have one. I want to get a combined decoder with sound for it as it doesn't have sound.
I also have two moguls, a Mikado and a track cleaning loco. All my engines and cars are LGB.
One Mogul is older and had the circuit board replaced with an LGB 55021 decoder. All the other engines are "DCC ready with 55021s installed." So I am not yet certain what to do about this one mogul yet. Have some reading to do.
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Old 02-23-2020, 01:06 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Zimo or Massoth will be the easiest fit, but Massoth decoders are some of the trickiest programming, and pain in the butt I have found. Get it programmed from the dealer and do not "tweak" it... I've seen several people have all kinds of problems programming them, too many CVs that depend on each other.


I'd look at Zimo, most trouble free and great sounds. All the connection cables should be available for plug and play.


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Thank you. I see Zimo has Forney sounds in their library so will probably go with them. Have to figure out which decoder and speaker to get so I know if fits. I haven't take apart my Forney yet and everything I read says it is a PITA.
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For my forneys I placed the speaker in the fuel bunker and drilled holes above the trailing truck. Decoder fit in front of the cab and as I wanted bell and whistle reed sensors I used the Zimo MX696 which just fits.
Biggest issue for first timers is taking boiler off. so:
1. remove front pilot if there
2. remove front of boiler (there are small screws on the side).

3. now you can remove cab and rest of boiler.
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Detailed disassembly sequence here:


https://elmassian.com/index.php/larg...e-power/forney


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Thank you. There are five versions of the Zimo MX696. KS, KV, N, S, and V I assume I need the KS version?

Do I also need a LGB Mogul Sound Function Trigger?
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