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Old 04-13-2020, 08:04 PM   #1 (permalink)
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You would think the white pass people would wait or hang onto the old units. Well guess have to repaint.


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Diesels in Durango? Heresy!
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Another tourist railroad goes the way of the mainline railroads in the 50s. Steam being phased out.


So you will probably now see only "special" trains with a steamer on the front end. If you want to ride behind a steam engine will mean checking when the steamers will run and planning around their schedule where we used to just sign up on our schedule and know we would get a steamer.
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FTA... "The acquisition, underway since last September and finalized in January, increases the company’s roster of diesel locomotives from six to ten, facilitates the pursuit of incremental revenue-generating business opportunities, and provides the railroad with greater operational depth and maintenance flexibility throughout multiple seasons of the year. Steam will remain the primary motive power on the D&SNGRR line."

Looks like the D&S already has six dismals.
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Not to argue with the guy who wrote that, but how could steam be the primary motive power if they are increasing the diesel roster, and "operational depth and maintenance flexibility"...


Maybe the tourist operation will be primarily steam... like 51% ??
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Not to argue with the guy who wrote that, but how could steam be the primary motive power if they are increasing the diesel roster, and "operational depth and maintenance flexibility"...
Didn't y'all notice that D&SNGRR got sued by the Feds for the cost of putting out a fire started by a steam locomotive?




And how about the conversion of their locos to oil-burning, to address the same problem.
https://the-journal.com/articles/168392
" said it’s important to have the option of running oil-powered locomotives during extreme drought.This issue came to a head in summer 2018, when drought, high fire danger and the 416 Fire caused the D&SNG to shut down for more than 40 days. Since then, Harper has said the railroad would have to adapt."

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Maybe the tourist operation will be primarily steam... like 51% ??
Is there any other operation besides the tourists?
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wow, burned 6 months?


and the railroad has caused 4 other fires?


no wonder they bought diesels!


Now, I know squat about the impact and efficiency of spark arrestors on steam locos, but haven't other railroads been able to mitigate this issue?


beartrap arrestor on Colorado & Southern:
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Well nothing like the sound of an Alco. While some of the steamers will be converted, I think I have to agree the steamers will become more special trains. DSNG is buying two more from WP snd has at least two brand new diesels on order. One does not invest like that unless planning to use them more than some maintence.



You have to admit these Alcos have been well traveled. AK to Columbia to AK and now to CO.


Poor WP bought new diesels and now shut down for quite some time as most cruises have been canceled.
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beartrap arrestor on Colorado & Southern:
and don't forget the balloon stacks on the early 4-4-0s.

I think you might run into the problem of prototypical accuracy versus height and efficiency.
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Hi-rails follow each train, to spot and put out fires.
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