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Old 04-12-2010, 01:38 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Has anyone ever tried On30 outside? If so, what track did you use? Did it hold up up to the elements? Did you have any major issues with operation outside?

I've been searching the net for answers but really haven't found much useful information. Just throwing this out there to satisfy my curiosity.

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Old 04-12-2010, 02:32 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I don't have any specific experience with this, but a friend of mine has "O" gauge outside, and his biggest problem is with UV damage to track ties, etc. My guess is that would be a problem with your track too, finding UV resistant track.

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Old 04-12-2010, 02:57 PM   #3 (permalink)
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This is a subject that crops up every then and now, and I always give the same response.

My BIL and I have had PECO nickel-silver 16.5mm track outdoors since 1979.

In GR a few years back there was an article covering the building of an outdoor 0n30 layout - looked good too AND IIRC it was in the state just south of Oregon, where they have powerful sunshine, according to the state motto.

PECO track has built-in UV inhibitors, and i bleeve that you can use it for at least the near forty years that WE have before it becomes a concern.

Can't say anything about other folks' track as I have no experience of it, never having needed any.

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Old 04-12-2010, 03:32 PM   #4 (permalink)
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SVRR has O gauge track with UV resistant ties, not sure where you'd fine HO gauge with that. There are UV sprays.
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Jerry, almost forty years of sun and rain on OUR track has made little difference.....here in yUK we are used to putting smaller gauge track outdoors - we have more room.

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Major issue...
I built 200' of ladder for an On3 layout. Half elevated and half on the ground. I was ready to hand lay the track. Then the Rains hit and I watched sandy water flow over the 1 1/4" tall ladder and decided that my brand new K-27 would never fight that!
I bough my G starter set and the K has never been outside.
I decided to leave the ladder up to see how it behaved. I float my track on the ground!
The Trex crumbled.... high heat here.

I think your best bet is elevated and built like a conventional indoor layout with fixed scenery.
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I haven't. But I know that some guy by the name of Peter Jones did. Unfortunately, he passed away. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I do believe he used Peco for track.
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Peco is the only one I know that will hold up outdoors.
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Posted By Darkrider on 01 Jun 2010 01:48 PM
I haven't. But I know that some guy by the name of Peter Jones did. Unfortunately, he passed away. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I do believe he used Peco for track.
Yup, the late and much-missed Peter Jones had Peco n/s track outdoors for well over forty years, in the industrial atmosphere and dank weather of South wales, too. It held up there as well as in rural North Wales, and has been holding up on the commercial Peco site in Beer, Devon, since the late '60's, too.

I'm sure there is some German-made track that is as good, just as there is German-made 45mm track that is good [a name that sounds like Thiele or something?], but right now I can't think of any German 0n30-looking n/s track. We get reminded from time to time about other makes of track that is 'far superior' to anything we have now, or have been using for decades, but apart from the odd twitter on the forum I've never actually heard from anybody using it.

Perhaps our German posters can advise us here?

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I suppose, most of todays track will survive outdoors. They are not made from Cardboard or rusting iron anymore. I beleve, even brass is no longer used for smaller gauges.

On30 track is only 16,5mm wide. Rolling stock is much lighter and smaller than with the larger scales. So dirt and plants might be an issue outdoors. Not something I´d run on ground level.

The important thing, just like in other scales, is to find trackbed (sleepers) to suit your models. Peco NG track is modelled after Welsh narrow gauge prototypes. US Shays or Forneys might look a bit displaced on that kind of track. Many people use Micro Engineering 0n30 track for US prototypes. http://www.ks-modelleisenbahnen.de/h...gineering.html It is US made and looks a bit lighter than Peco 0-16,5.

Of course, some people might ask, is there were many 30 inch lines in the US.


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