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Old 01-25-2011, 06:51 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hello!

Somebody in this forum who had converted Bachmann 0n30 up to 0 scale? Think about splitting the underframes and widen to fit 32mm track.

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its doable..but the bachmann On30 stuff is very Narrow-Gauge in size and shape..
converting to standard gauge would result in VERY tiny locomotives and cars, compared to standard gauge O-scale models.
but! if that what you want to do, there are no rules!

Easiest way to convert rolling stock would be to simply buy new standard gauge trucks and install them..
not much reason to widen the narrow gauge trucks, when standard gauge O-scale parts are readily available..

Locomotives are more difficult, but still doable..
you have to lenghten the axels, widen the frame, move the cylinders out wider, and some other frame tweaks probably..
going wider should be MUCH easier than going narrower though!
(I am converting some On30 locos to On2..making things narrower is a challenge..wider would be much easier)
you would also probably want a new larger cab, and other detail changes to convert it to standard gauge..

What specifically are you looking to do?
any specific locomotives or rolling stock you would like to widen to standard gauge?

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Old 01-25-2011, 02:29 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Thanks!

Good to hear, it´s possible to convert wider! I´m not much conserned about the small size of the On30,1:48-50 fits good!

I´m working at Eramet Norway Sauda, an old, big Manganeese alloy industry, buildt around the1920-years by the American company: Electric Furnace Products & Co.Ltd.
A lot of cranes, loading and unloading towers, locos: two 18t Porter 0-2-0, two 18t Alco 0-2-0 , all saddletankers, and a norwegian buildt 0-3-0 steamlocomotive.
Later we got 3 british diesel Fowlers 0-2-0.

The Bachmann G-scale 18ton Porter saddletank loco is equal to those we had, but G-scale will be too big to an indoor railway I think. The Bachman On30 side tip ore-cars are OK ,two port gondola, and flatcars, it was all american, and there we have to find the models too!

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Oddvar,
If you see 2 drive wheels on one side we would call that an 0-4-0, we count each axle as 2 wheels. The first 0 and the last 0 are for non driving wheels; pilot and pony trucks.
Sounds like a fun project.

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0-2-0 is correct for some countries such as France.
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Posted By EFP&CO on 25 Jan 2011 02:29 PM
Thanks!

Good to hear, it´s possible to convert wider! I´m not much conserned about the small size of the On30,1:48-50 fits good!

I´m working at Eramet Norway Sauda, an old, big Manganeese alloy industry, buildt around the1920-years by the American company: Electric Furnace Products & Co.Ltd.
A lot of cranes, loading and unloading towers, locos: two 18t Porter 0-2-0, two 18t Alco 0-2-0 , all saddletankers, and a norwegian buildt 0-3-0 steamlocomotive.
Later we got 3 british diesel Fowlers 0-2-0.

The Bachmann G-scale 18ton Porter saddletank loco is equal to those we had, but G-scale will be too big to an indoor railway I think. The Bachman On30 side tip ore-cars are OK ,two port gondola, and flatcars, it was all american, and there we have to find the models too!

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Interesting!
well if you arent comparing them to American standard gauge locomotives, then I guess the small size is irrelevant!
So basically you would have "narrow gauge looking" locomotives and rolling stock, with standard gauge track..
that sounds cool!

I have always thought it would be fun to model some Erie railroad 6-foot gauge trains!
they looked essentially like standard gauge trains of the era, (late 19th century) but with EXTRA wide gauge!
Drivers spread way out..

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Thanks John! In Norway we say "two-axeled", this time I just tried to "talk like an american" Next time I´ll count the wheels.
Thanks to all of you!
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Do you think the wheels will go outside the frame if I widen to 32mm track?
I have found Porter 0-4-0 18 ton saddletank loco at Grandt Line, but its without engine. The Bachmann on30 cars looks good and are not so expensive.

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Posted By EFP&CO on 26 Jan 2011 07:49 AM
Do you think the wheels will go outside the frame if I widen to 32mm track?
I have found Porter 0-4-0 18 ton saddletank loco at Grandt Line, but its without engine. The Bachmann on30 cars looks good and are not so expensive.

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Depends on what kind of locomotive you are talking about..
for an On30 locomotive that is inside frame to begin with, converting to 32mm it will still be inside frame..
you probably wont have to modify the frame itself..just make longer axels and move the cylinders out the same amount.

but for an On30 locomotive that begins as an outside frame model..then yes, moving out the drivers will result in them being "outside of the outside frame"..
So you will have to move the entire "outside frame" out further as well, so the locomotive remains outside frame.

you are starting out with 16.5 mm gauge..going to 32mm you are doubling the width of the gauge..
increasing 8mm on each side..thats pretty substantial.

Looking at the Grandt line Porters, they are all already inside frame..which makes things easier.
you would probably want to "thicken up" the frame between the drivers when you widen the gauge, just so it looks more natural.


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Thank you Scot for useful information, this will help us descide what scale we have to go for! H0-, 0 or G-scale. I´m happy all locomotives had inside frame.

I´m very thankful!!

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