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07-10-2020 07:46 AM
Dan Pierce Super caps are a temporary high capacity capacitor power storage device. I installed these in the LGB stainz loco and after running about 1 minute on DCC with lights and smoke on and full speed, I picked the engine up off the track and it ran for over 10 seconds ion the air!! This is how long it took for these super caps to discharge. Look at these as a short term battery for power, but have no lead or acid to degrade and can be recharged a hundred thousand times or more.
07-09-2020 09:39 AM
paul2887 I can't tell everyone how much I appreciate the advice. But much of what Dan just said - "Since it is the USA Trains GG1, should not have a power pickup problem and the MX699KV has super caps to keep the decoder alive" - is literally like a foreign language to me. I'll keep at it though, and those trains will run someday!
07-09-2020 07:52 AM
Dan Pierce Battery for less than 4 locos, DCC track power for over 4 locos. And now there is DCC for battery powered locos by several vendors.

My friend has the DCC version revolution, receiver in the engine with a Zimo decoder, track powered so he does not need the batteries. Since it is the USA Trains GG1, should not have a power pickup problem and the MX699KV has super caps to keep the decoder alive.
07-08-2020 04:27 PM
paul2887 Not quite clear on that answer, so to simplify (for me) let me put this another way. I'm planning on having two, perhaps three locos. I'm comfortable with regular 110V AC wiring. I know next to nothing about computers and electronics. I'd like to keep things simple to start, at least while I'm getting going. So are you saying DCC is the best choice until I get to around four locos? Or are you saying battery is the best choice until I get to four locos?

My apologies for being so dense on this, and I appreciate the clarification!
07-08-2020 03:02 AM
Greg Elmassian never endng debate, if budget is a priority, the crossover point between battery power and DCC is about 4 locos....

07-08-2020 01:15 AM
paul2887 Thanks everyone. I'm scared of making an expensive mistake here. I'm a retired contractor, and I fully understand all the construction aspects of this hobby. But so much of this seems to revolve around electronics - not at all something I'm comfortable with - that I feel like I'm in WAY over my head sometimes. Throw in the track power versus battery power debate, and I get completely lost!!
06-27-2020 07:02 AM
Dan Pierce Many of us in my club with wireless DC and DCC keep our receivers inside. I had the 27mhz users double the antenna length and the range increased a lot. My older Zimo MX1 and newer MX10 are in my basement (raised ranch) and I have never had a range isue.

The point of this is I do not have to lug power supplies around, they are in a permanent place and protected from weather, and my latest DCC has 12 amps to the track and my older Aristo has 10 amps to the track. Just have to carry the remotes.
06-26-2020 04:33 PM
06-25-2020 08:12 PM
wolfetrac Just my two cents. I purchased a Bridgewerks 10amp and it worked really nice. Where I am going with this is while I was building my layout, I got so tired of lugging that 20 lb power pack around, I found myself reaching for my MRC 6200 (2 amps). You could start with a smaller pack just to get you started then progress as needed. Keep in mind I was running mostly LGB single and two motor locomotives with smoke & sound. Usually one at a time on a small to medium sized layout. The MRC control master 20 (5 amps) works good two. I was able to double head twin motor locomotives with that one. Still, if building a medium to large layout, you will need a 10amp or larger pack eventually.
06-25-2020 07:18 PM
Mark_s Paul

I'm with a company that makes traditional track power power packs. We have a thing on our website which discusses some of the things that you should be thinking about:

We are located in Newberg OR. The Rose City Garden Railroad society is a very active club, with most activity around the Portland area - you might want to join them just to read all of the e-mail traffic which talks about what is going on with garden railroads locally. If it's exciting enough, it might entice you to take a drive to check something out.

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