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07-19-2020 12:47 PM
Aflyer Hello all, and Happy Sunday.
After much reading about DCC and R/C I have done a 180 and ordered a RailPro system.

Thank you to Don Sweet who was very patient with me and provided lots of education in a couple of extended phone conversations.

I model mostly in S gauge, and this new foray into G gauge is to have a simple train layout in the yard for another level of train entertainment. The building part is also a rewarding experience, and could be even better if we were not in the middle of a 90* heat wave, LOL.

Thank you to all who provided me information and helped me decide which way to go.

I am hoping to see the system next week, and have now completed about 65' of my 80' loop. I will add some updates to my layout thread soon.
George
07-08-2020 12:28 PM
Pete Thornton
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if your transmitter dies, you need to hope the manufacturer is still making what matches your receivers as they are a matched pair.
Not quite. That's one reason I have been switching my steamers and battery locos to DSM2 TX and RX. I use RCS and Spektrum TX and I have a variety of RX that are compatible.
07-08-2020 07:24 AM
Dan Pierce One great thing about DCC and DC power is any engine can run on most manufacturers systems. I run engines equipped with LGB, Zimo, Massoth, Digitrax, MRC, etc. decoders on my Zimo system, and on friends MTS or MRC, or NCE systems, plus all but the MRC decoders with relays work on DC track.
Battery operation OTOH run on any track anywhere, but if your transmitter dies, you need to hope the manufacturer is still making what matches your receivers as they are a matched pair. In DCC or track power, this is not a problem.
07-07-2020 04:53 PM
East Broad Top Pete, it's the BlueRail DCC board that's iOS only. I'll be putting one in my M-1 when I'm ready to do electronics in it. (Still in the paint shop at the moment.)

Later,

K
07-07-2020 11:24 AM
Pete Thornton
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Originally Posted by Aflyer View Post
Mike,
Thank you, appreciate the input. I like what I have been reading about the Revolution DCC TX. The Airwire seems good also. And based on some input it sounds like Blue Rail DCC also has some good reports. . . .

George
From what I am reading (thanks George,) all the r/c DCC systems work the same way. They have a proprietary radio system between TX and RX, and then the RX drives a standard DCC decoder.

The Bluerail DCC - Tam Valley board is brand new, and apparently shipping to the mailing list first [I'm on so I could get one, if they are indeed shipping.]

I was gratified to notice that the Bluerail DCC board can be operated in "Basic Mode" directly to the motor by installing a jumper - no DCC decoder required.
07-07-2020 11:13 AM
Pete Thornton
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Originally Posted by East Broad Top View Post
. . . . The Blue Rail Trains board works with your iPhone (sorry, no Android compatibility). . .

K
Eh? I have the Bluerail app on my [Samsung Android] phone and it drives my Bluerail board nicely. The website says: "BlueRail develops in iOS, and then ports to Android (so iOS control will be available first)."
07-07-2020 12:07 AM
Aflyer
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Originally Posted by Treeman View Post
The Revolution DCC receiver is very similiar to the Air Wire converter. It is to drive a DCC decoder. These devices are very easy to install in a loco with existing DCC. The prime example today is like a Piko loco that comes with factory DCC, power the receiver with a battery and it will operate the existing DCC, two wires in, two wires out.
Mike,
Thank you, appreciate the input. I like what I have been reading about the Revolution DCC TX. The Airwire seems good also. And based on some input it sounds like Blue Rail DCC also has some good reports.
As I said somewhere, seems like lots of good choices, I just need to make a decision and get one of them ordered.
Two of the Locos I have are Bachmann and Aristocraft with the PNP motor/sound decoder socket.
Thanks again,
George
07-05-2020 11:59 PM
Treeman The Revolution DCC receiver is very similiar to the Air Wire converter. It is to drive a DCC decoder. These devices are very easy to install in a loco with existing DCC. The prime example today is like a Piko loco that comes with factory DCC, power the receiver with a battery and it will operate the existing DCC, two wires in, two wires out.
07-05-2020 10:43 PM
Aflyer
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Originally Posted by East Broad Top View Post
I know of a few folks who are running the Revolution DCC system and like it, but I have yet to try it personally. I use Airwire controllers to run my DCC decoders via Tam Valley Depot or Airwire "Convertr" receivers at the moment, and will be getting a BlueRail Trains DCC receiver later this Summer for a project I'm working on. The Blue Rail Trains board works with your iPhone (sorry, no Android compatibility).

The biggest "thing" with DCC is learning how to program the decoders. Each manufacturer is different in terms of complexity, and the learning curves vary. Once you get the hang of it, though (no matter the platform you're using to do the programming) you can do some seriously cool things.

Later,

K
K, thanks again for the additional information.
So far what I have learned is there are far too many options and no clear easy choice.
I will do more reading to learn about the Airwre stuff. I just took a quick look at Blue Rail, I wonder when it will be readily available, I didn't see an actual date.
George
07-05-2020 10:20 PM
Aflyer
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George,
If you want a simple and intuitive system as indicated in your first post, I think you want the Revolution R/C system that Pete referred to.
That system is used my many Large Scalers and you can get lots of feedback by searching on mls or if you modify the topic subject.

The Revolution DCC is a later development combining the Revolution R/C from Aristo-Craft to drive a DCC decoder. It theoretically provides much more functionality but is also more expensive and certainly not simple or intuitive.
I don't actually know anyone running Revolution DCC in Large Scale but there obviously must be some.

I would suggest you look at both and based on your requirements, expected features, the number of trains you want to run simultaneously and relative cost, decide which one is for you.
krs,
Thank you for the above information, I was basically looking at the Revolution DCC because it seemed to be fewer components and DCC capability. I will do some reading and research on their R/C system.
George
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